We discussed the Stoics and Stoicism, and again we found that their philosophy is very crudely described by the way we use the word today. We had looked at Stoicism by Massimo Pigliucci at www.youtube.com/watch?v=seLLJP3H1FU&t=5st and listened to The History of Philosophy without any Gaps podcasts 60 through 68 by Peter Adamson. The Stoic system has its own Logic and related Epistemology, Physics and Ethics. Their logic was different from Aristotle's, requiring propositions to be about something rather than just equations. They did not accept universals. In physics they postulated that the universe starts and ends in fire - then history repeats exactly over and over. They were materialists, though they did believe that God is immanent in nature (they influenced many later philosophers - here we might think of Spinoza). Their ethics followed from this base and from the Cynics - we may be indifferent to anything except our own virtue, which we must maintain, because that is all that is within our control. This at least suggests how we think of Stoicism. Stoicism in practice required discipline, and a daily routine requiring morning meditation, remembering that we are just one person in the whole world of people, anticipating tests of our virtue, being morally mindful and reviewing our day, not to regret but to learn lessons.